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Started by Phil Berania, May 11, 2006, 08:57:25 PM

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Ryan Cassidy

Looks Great Phil!!  I can't wait to see how the final color turns out!

Cheers,
Ryan Cassidy

HM1014
Build Site - http://www.cassidypics.com/cobra

66rdster

Nice job, Phil!!!!  It really looks great. I can't wait to see the final results.



Mike

danc30

#197
Lookin' good Phil ;) I'm still in the bodywork stage :'(, before doing anything else.
KC- Genesis 427-SO, 482-CI - 622 FWHP/630 FWTQ "Almost" too much power.....

dwright

Can't wait to be at the stage you are at.  Looks great.  Darren

Phil Berania

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
I SCREW'D UP THE CANDY.
Everything went WRONG!!!!!!!
Orange Peel...Inconsistancies in the paint....RUNS.... :'( :'( :'(

"Stripes look Great" 8-) 8-)

I'm sanding the Candy down and painting over with a Glamour Metallic Base Strattis Blue.

A friend said there may be problems waiting a week to clear.... :-? :-?
I'm gonna be sanding for the next few days..
Anyone see any problems with me painting and clearing next weekend?
My friend said something about an Innercoat clear :-? :-?

Here are a few pics...Dont Hurt me to bad :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

Phil
Phil Berania
HM1044
Electrician

Phil Berania

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Phil Berania
HM1044
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66rdster

Dang Phil, thats not the news I wanted to hear. I'm sorry you ran into problems. We all have these kinds of things happen to us sometime or another. About all we can do is learn from our mishaps and go on.

I emailed a guy I know about what he thought was the best way to prep your car for paint again. This guy is a pro painter and is very familiar with HOK products. Here's what he recommends. Take this advise for what its worth. I can't say this is the best or only way to handle your situation but it seems pretty sound to me.

"there is probably alot of material on the car and it should be taken down to primer, shoot sealer then base/clear but thats alot of sanding. obviously the best way is sanding down to primer but if it were my car i would feel just fine with blocking the whole car flat with 400gr. once its flat he is going to want to shoot a coat or 2 of sealer then base/clear. the sealer is a must since the candy dye can soak up into the new base he will be spraying altering the color. its a little late now but your friend would have had much better luck shooting the kbc line or mixing the straight dye into an intercoat clear or clear base and spraying that way. when spraying candy as a base you dont have to worry about runs, streaks or anything like that, just blotching."

Anyway, I hope that at least gives you some ideas. Good luck. Keep us posted on the progress.

Mike

Phil Berania

Hey Mike,
Thanks for the advise.
Sanding it down to primer is very unlikely. But, as you said, I am going to sand it down to flat, shoot sealer then base/clear.
In your post you talk as if my friend was painting the car...Nope, I'm all to blame...I painted every inch of it....my friend is there for technical support.
The New paint and sealer has been odered..I'll be sanding for a few days...I'll shoot it when the paint and sealer arrive and keep you all posted.

Phil
Phil Berania
HM1044
Electrician

Tom

Wow, Phil.  What a sick to the stomach feeling that must have been to see all your hard work going awry.  My feeling though has always been that by doing it your self, you can afford to do it wrong several times and when you get it right you've still saved $$$ and have gained valuable experience.

Keep us posted on the results.
HM-1042.  3.55:1 IRS.  428 FE.  TKO-600 - .64 OD.  Satin black.

Phil Berania

Hey Tom,
Your right, in both aspects. I'm sick to my stomach that the paint went wrong. But, as my friend said, I picked the HARDEST paint to paint for a first timer.
When this car is done I have allot of conversation I can bring up and I can trully say that I did "EVERYTHING" on the car...From the Motor to the Paint, the good things and the bad things and that I can hold my head up high.
It's all GOOD 8-) 8-), Live and LEARN :).
I wouldnt trade the experience in building this car with my Dad and my Son with anything in the world.

Phil
Phil Berania
HM1044
Electrician

66rdster

HaHa, hey Phil, I didn't even know you had a friend standing by for technical support. The part of my post your thinking of is a quote from the guy I talked to. I think when he was refering to "your friend" he was speaking of you. HaHa.

Anyway, I'm glad you have a good attitude about it. Its all about learning, and like you said, you can take pride in saying that you did everything yourself. Keep us posted on your progress. I'm sure its gonna turn out great.

Mike

LMH

#206
Hey Phil
I'm so sorry about what happened but it's a learning experience.
I wonder if you're laying it on too heavy. Being as that it orange peels AND runs, it sounds to 'heavy', like gun adjustment.
I'm not sure and sure no expert by anyones imagination but I'd play around a little with gun adjustment.
Just a thought.
Larry

jwd

It is probably a combination of gun adjustment and the temp. of reducer/thinner being used. You definately picked a hard color for your first try.

Jim
HM#1065, 351W,TKO 600 (.82 5th), 3.27

Ryan Cassidy

I thought Candies were the hardest to spray too, but wasn't sure where I heard that.  Regardless, you have a really nice looking car.  Just by getting some color on there you are probably able to see how everything lines up and will look once finished.  Sanding it won't be fun, but it sounds like you've got it all under control.  Hopefully it goes smoother this time around...

Keep up the great work!!

Cheers,
Ryan Cassidy

HM1014
Build Site - http://www.cassidypics.com/cobra

Phil Berania

The Gun was set up right. It was "ME". I got tired 6 hrs into the candy...Got way Too hot under the plastic tarp...I was not consistant with my distance from the car and was not consistant with my speed from left to right. The First 3 coats were Text Book...The last 2 Coats is were I REALLY Got Tired..and screwed up.

Phil
Phil Berania
HM1044
Electrician