Hurricane Motorsports
Public Area => Build Pictures => Topic started by: Russ Crouch on September 11, 2016, 10:53:23 PM
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Although I haven't taken delivery of HM-2018 as of this date, I thought this would be a good time to say hello and to update all on my progress in preparation for the project. After two years of searching, I was able to locate and purchase a very nice, untouched 1968, 427 Side Oiler block in February of 2014. Documentation provided with the block show that it was in CSX3337 while it was raced and while in storage until 2013, when the original engine for CSX3337 was reinstalled as part of a concourse restoration project. I took the block to a local machine shop/engine builder specializing in building engines for circle track and drag racing, with clients in Nebraska, Kansas, Missouri, and Iowa. They also perform restoration on engines for collectors of NHRA drag and NASCAR cars from the 60s. Does a lot of GM work, but loves Ford FEs. When I brought this 427 Side Oiler block into his shop, the owner was amazed at the pristine condition of the block. He is extremely busy with his race engine and restoration work.
Two and one-half years later, I brought the completed engine home this August after he dyno'd it. Dyno results are as follows: 555HP and 565 Ft. LB. torque. I have since clocked the bell-housing and installed the clutch, pressure plate and transmission. I have attached images of the engine in its current state.
I had originally planned on purchasing a Cobra kit from a manufacture located 50 miles north of where we live. To ensure ourselves we were making the right decision, my Wife and I thought it would be a good idea pay Hurricane Motorsports a visit before pulling the trigger on a car with the local manufacture. In April, we took a 3 1/2 hour drive over to Lake City to see what Hurricane had to offer. That was a wise decision. We meet with Steve, Jason and Monty. They took us on an impressive plant tour that included their other product lines. Monty even took us out for a ride in the shop car on that very cool Friday in April. On the way home to Nebraska, we knew it was a day well spent. Jason and Steve have been very supportive with my questions. They will be great to work with.
I hope the pictures I have attached show up. I didn't see them in the preview for this post.
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Welcome Russ. I speak for a number of people on this forum that believe you made the right decision to buy a Hurricane. I know my choice was right and have never looked back. The guys at Hurricane are really great. Welcome to the madness. There are a lot of guys out here that can provide a lot of help during your build. Just let us know.
Really nice engine. Nice pedigree as well. It will look really nice in a HM-2018 too.
Keep us posted on progress and of course keep the pictures coming.
Russ Rittimann
HM-2005
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Welcome, I'm guessing you were talking about Shell Valley, They were on my short list as well and I know a lot of parts for other cars come from them (including Hurricane). But as you found like I did, Hurricane has their program together, and the car is just a compliment to their other business'.
I will also add Yeah - another FE big block.
Mark
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Hay! Anther Gen II builder is always a great thing... great to meet you Russ. That's an awesome piece of originality with cool provenance you got there. Looking forward to watching your build!
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Russ,
First of all...a big hearty welcome to the group. I too looked at all the cobra replica manufacturers and, like you, felt like my decision was made up the minute I met Jason, Monty, Mike and the gang and toured the Manufacturing facility in Lake City, IA. It's a great company that turns out an AWESOME product!
Second, that 427 FE is a thing of beauty. It's gonna look and sound great in the Hurricane.
Third, I am glad that I am no longer the newbie on the forum!!
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My Wife and I went for a little drive over to Lake City, IA on Veterans Day to check the progress on HM-2018. Jason had nearly completed construction of the frame and was checking the alignment of the FE engine mounts. I'm going to recommend Steve and Monty get an engine hoist for Jason.
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Holy Mackerel!!! Those Iowa boys are strong. Best to not mess with them.....
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Russ, saw you had posted on Aaron's build page about e brake mods. Presume you actually took delivery of HM2018 over the holidays sometime, how about an update on your build?
Mark
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Mark,
We took delivery on January 9th. I have been traveling and working an some large progects with my job and haven't had time to post progress on HM-2018. Most of the work so far has been done on the weekends. Progress includes the following.
battery cables
supply and return fuel lines
mounted and plumbed fuel pump
pedal assembly installed
brake lines plumbed
fuel tank mounted
fuel level sensor installed
e brake installed with mod
aluminum foot box covering installed
found and pressed in some 1/2" OD X 3/8" I'D bronz bushings for the accelerator pedal pivot
Saturday I will pull the trunk tub and cockpit and drop the engine/transmission assemble in to allow me to plum the clutch slave cylinder, cut the battery negative cable, terminate and find a good place to attach to engine block and look at routing for the fuel lines for the fuel injection. I also may take a look at getting drive shaft measurements. Sunday I will remove the set covers to install seat heaters and put the seat covers back.
Attached below is a picture of the foot box work.
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Russ, looks like you are really getting after it. I know you will enjoy the build as have the rest of us. Keep the updates coming and enjoy.
Sam
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The weather in Nebraska was incredibly warm this weekend. I'm sure we will have to pay for it with a major snow storm before Spring. My wife and I dropped the engine in today. The X-support for the transmisson took some work to get the 1/2" bolts through both the brace and frame. Fastnal was closed so found some 1/2" grade 8 at ACE hardware. Sort of pricey, but got it done. Did anyone get the 1/2" bolts with the your car?
Finished bending the hydraulic clutch line between the master and slave cylinders. I didn't realize they would be so close together. The FE engine mount on the driver's side has to have the bottom hole elongated on a Side Oiler. I also added the ERA mod to the driver side mount. I don't know if I will ever need it, but should help keep the mount from seperating.
I didn't get the seat heaters installed today, so maybe next weekend.
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Russ! Your ride is looking awesome! I am not that far behind you but seeing your pics is motivating me to get the fuel system finished this week so I can get that engine in.
Good work!
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What is the "ERA mod" to the driver side engine mount?
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ERA Motor Mount Mod
http://erareplicas.com/fiaman/engine/mountmod.htm (http://erareplicas.com/fiaman/engine/mountmod.htm)
I did it also.
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ERA mod for FE type engine mount.
http://www.erareplicas.com/427man/engine/mountmod/index.htm (http://www.erareplicas.com/427man/engine/mountmod/index.htm)
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ERA mod for FE type engine mount.
http://www.erareplicas.com/427man/engine/mountmod/index.htm (http://www.erareplicas.com/427man/engine/mountmod/index.htm)
Ah, thanks - so its just an "FE" mount problem?
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Bob,
Not sure if it is only a problem for FEs, but it is a fix for an FE. I had a 69 Z-28 in H.S. that would pull the LH motor mount apart. GM's fix was to install a cable around the engine mount. It kept the air cleaner from putting a dent from the under side of the hood. ;-)
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Russ, got a small thing for you to think about after looking at your pictures. I am working through a couple of refinement issues on my brakes and will post details later. However consider this: you have your brake light switch tee in the up position (similar to mine) this will allow a small of air to possibly be trapped in the tee and switch with out a way to bleed it out. Switch tee should be repositioned at a downward angle to prevent this. Straight down option may not be the best either as any debris in the system can then settle there and cause switch malfunction. Just my two cents on a change that I am going to make, thought it would be easy for you to address now if you wanted.
Happy building
Mark
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Mark,
Thank you for the excelent advice from experience. That does make sense. I think I will turn switch back toward the foot box and just below horizontal.
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Diane and I haven't posted a build progress report for a couple of weeks, so we're taking a break to get it done. Since last report we bonded the cockpit tub, made and installed an aluminum plate to cover the opening for the transmission shifter in the drive shaft hump, insulated inside of the foot boxes, mounted the upper frame, mounted the gas pedal assembly, installed the bearing in in the driver's side foot box and loosely assembled the steering shafts and knuckles between the footbox and rack and pinion, made a bracket for and installed the throttle linkage and throttle body, and mounted the FE overflow tank. This evening we will install the inner fender panels. Tomorrow we plan to mount the radiator and figure out a solution for plumbing the radiator hoses. I also need to start doing some research on the placement of the heater core inlet so that I don't mount the fuel pressure regulator over that location on the firewall. Any guidance on that subject will be greatly appreciated. Jason called last week to ask what color of ceramic coating we wanted and sent the exhaust collector gaskets out. We hope to see the exhaust system soon.
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A couple more pics.
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Russ, looking good! I'm really enjoying these new Gen II builds. What brand of tires are you using on your car?
Sam
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Sam,
The tires are the Cooper Cobra with the letters turned in. My plan is to apply the TredWear tire graghics that look like Goodyear Billboards. That is if the first set of tires last long enough to get it done.
Did you have to cut the hole for the cold air duct piping at the back end of the inner fender? I'm also looking for pictures of the four inner fender brackets installed on an FE car. I think I'm going to wait on installing the inner fenders until after we get the headers wrapped and installed. It will be tight enought without them.
Yes this build a lot of fun.
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Looking good Russ. You mentioned you made the aluminum plate to cover the shifter on the transmission tunnel. Something to keep in mind, if you ever need to remove the transmission (transmission failure, clutch replacement) you need to be able to remove the transmission from the bottom. You have to be able to slide the transmission back enough to disengage the front shaft from the clutch plate. The shaft on the TKO-600s for the shifter sticks up a good bit and won't let you slide the transmission back unless the hole in the transmission tunnel if big enough. Looks like your aluminum plate is just big enough to cover the round part on the transmission so the hole is probably the minimum size. The other option is to loosen the motor mounts and tilt the engine/transmission enough which is not that easy.
Just something to consider to make things easier later. One of the guys here local has a Gen 1 and had to remove the transmission for clutch repair. He had a heck of a time getting his transmission out and had to tilt the motor/transmission as it was the only way.
I opened up the hole in the transmission tunnel to hopefully have enough room to slide the transmission back if needed. Here's a pix of what I'm talking about before I opened up the hole. I guess I didn't take a pix of it afterwards but I only removed fiberglass towards the rear and made a plate big enough to cover.
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Russ, yes I had to cut a hole for the cold air duct. Don't remember how I did it now.
Sam
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Russ,
I appreciate the recomendation on making sure the opening in the transmission hump is large enough to allow removal of the transmission. According to the Tremec site the TKO600 input shaft for a Ford application is 7.21". I currently have 2.25" from the back of the shifter stub to the back of the opening in the hump. I think that increasing the size of the opening behind the shift stub to 8" to allow the input shaft to clear the throwout bearing/fork in the Quicktime bellhousing and the rubber boot at the bottom of the shift stub to clear the opening in the hump. Thanks again for the tip.
Russ C.
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Sam,
I cut the hole in the inner for the cold air duct and the valve in the foot box with one of these. I reduced the speed on my drill press to 300 RPM for the inner fender. Used the variable to cut through the aluminum and foot box fiberglass.
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Russ, wish I had one of those when I did mine. I think I used my hand jig saw with a metal cutting blade and then smoothed the edges with a file and sand paper. Not elegant, but it worked ok.
Sam
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I have looked at this for two evenings now and I cannot figure out where the inner fender brackets go. The assembly manual has a picture of the brackets, but does not have one showing where they are mounted.
From assembly guide page 104:
5. Attach the fender both fender support brackets to the fender using 1/4" bolts and washers.
6. Push the fender in so that the bracket touches the frame rail. The brackets will cause the fender to flare in at the bottom towards the frame rail. Mark and drill two 11/64" holes. for each bracket.
7. Attach the fender support brackets to the frame using #10 hex head metal screws.
However, when I push the fender inward, it would touch the header if it were in place the inner fender would touch the header.
Please provide guidance and/or a picture of the location of the installed brackets with the inner fender mounted.
Attached are pics of my driver side inner fender taped in place.
Your help is appreciated.
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Russ, FWIW I had to re brake my inner fender aprons so they would clear the headers, at this point (about 450 road miles) I have not installed any brackets on the bottom edge of the inner panels. They are pretty well locked in after the outer splash panels are installed.
All that to say; that is an item that can wait till closer to completion.
Mark
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Mark,
Last night I was looking at your excellent project build pics and noticed what looked like a bend in your inner fenders that I do not have. You verified my obsevation. I was also considering not using the the brackets, as it appeared the fender fender aprons will be supported sufficiently by the outer panels to be installed later in the build.
Thanks again for the feedback.
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My Wife and I finished wiring both starter solinoid and fuel pump this morning and started the car this afternoon. We then took it for a spin around the block. Will be finishing up the foot box vent controls tomorrow. The MSD Atomic EFI worked very well. Right now the MSD 6AL is controlling timing. I plan on locking down the distributor and having the EFI control the timing later. This project has some challenges, but with Jason's assistance and support from this Hurricane forum there hasn't been any thing we haven't been able to tackle
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Wow, thats exciting Russ! you're on a record pace, putting me to shame...
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Amazing how fast you have built your car!!! Looks really nice.
Russ
HM-2005
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Delivered the car to the body/paint guy a couple of weeks ago. My Wife and I drove over to Bradshaw today to look over progress. They will have to skim cote the entire car to eliminate weave in the body. Will also need to fix the zertnut spacing to get the hood lock handles to work.
The car is really coming together now. I have attached pictures of the progrest below.
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Looking really really good.
Due to all the body work needed, mine took 6 months at the body shop the second time. Nothing fit so he had to build up areas with seam sealer (very hard) before he added the filler (Bondo). This was after the first guy worked on it. Lots of sanding. Your car looks immensely better than mine.
Won't be long.
Russ
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Making great progress. As Russ says...it won't be long now. I am a little surprised that you both have so much body work to be done. The HM guys reworked the molds and the first ones I saw out of the mold looked really good. I have the first gen body and it required only minimal body work before paint. Maybe I was just lucky.
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I finished installing a seat heater in the passenger seat last night. I purchased Cobra purchased brand seats before we decided to go with a Hurricane, so I don't know if they are exactly what is normally provided with these kits. I have installed these in other cars and have never had a problem with them. I ordered the complete heater, switch, relay assembly from the following.
http://www.heatedseatkits.com/heatedseatkits/iheat2/index.html (http://www.heatedseatkits.com/heatedseatkits/iheat2/index.html)
Not cheap, but work very well.
I will pick up the other seat from our painter on Friday and take some pictures of the install process. It only takes about 45 minutes for each Cobra seat. I will hide the switches behind the dash.
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We need seat air conditioners down here in South Texas. Not only do you have to worry about toasting your legs on the sidepipes, if you get into your car on a sunny day with shorts on you toast your complete backside. Really doesn't matter if you have shorts on or not. Burns right through your clothes. I know from experience. What we put up with for year round golf and no snow shoveling.
The electronic air conditioner that is in the Tesla sounds like a great solution. You can program the air conditioner to come on a few minutes before you get off work so your car is nice and cool when you get in. A nice cool Cobra seat would be really nice.
I can appreciate the seat heaters. Reminds me of when I owned MGs and drove in the winter with the top down, heater on and the tonneau cover open on the drivers side.
Post some pix of your car painted when you get some.
Russ
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Making some progress on the body with skim coat. We spent most of the day on Sunday at the car dealers looking for body paint colors. We have narrowed the selection down to five for spray-outs by our painter. My favorite is a Benz color called Mountain Grey, #787.
https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-verizon&ei=R2mbWY2SEoX4mAHNt7WgBA&q=mountain+gray+metalic+787&oq=mountain+gray+metalic+787&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.12..33i160k1.301755.339952.0.365150.19.17.2.0.0.0.315.3849.0j2j12j2.16.0....0...1.1j4.64.mobile-gws-serp..2.17.3755...0j35i39k1j0i22i30k1j0i10k1j0i67k1j0i22i10i30k1j0i13i30k1j30i10k1.TIgBbFlX0Lk#imgrc=EnUseNuI9nkS_M: (https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-verizon&ei=R2mbWY2SEoX4mAHNt7WgBA&q=mountain+gray+metalic+787&oq=mountain+gray+metalic+787&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.12..33i160k1.301755.339952.0.365150.19.17.2.0.0.0.315.3849.0j2j12j2.16.0....0...1.1j4.64.mobile-gws-serp..2.17.3755...0j35i39k1j0i22i30k1j0i10k1j0i67k1j0i22i10i30k1j0i13i30k1j30i10k1.TIgBbFlX0Lk#imgrc=EnUseNuI9nkS_M:)
We have chosen a polar white for the stripes.
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Looking really good. Mountain grey metallic and polar white seem like a great combination.
Russ
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Visited Siebert Custom in Bradshaw, NE after getting off from work on Friday, 8/1. They are making steady process. They had just applied the first coat of primer before Diane and I arrived. Lighting wasn't good for picture, but I took a few.
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Looking good. I hadn't noticed you had dual roll bars.
Russ
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Thanks Russ. Yes, two roll bars doesn't do much for originality, but does protect a passenger (me when my Wife is driving). She says that will be the case when we drive to Lincoln on the weekends. ;-)
Russ C
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Final block sanding and going back to the paint boot for primer on Friday.
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HM-2018 was painted Friday, 11/10. The color and white base coat and clear coat were completed all in one day.
l'm posting a few pictures of the body before sanding and polishing the clear coat begins on Monday.
Russ C.
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A couple,more pictures.
Sorry about the up-side-down pics. If you open the pics they will appear right-side-up.
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Looks great Russ. Can't wait to see it polished.
Sam
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Finally figured how to link video on DropBox. Here is a video of the first time loading the car on a trailer before delivering it to the body/paint shop. A little nerve racking. ???
https://www.dropbox.com/s/l109np9yonwkdvn/IMG_0671.MOV?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/l109np9yonwkdvn/IMG_0671.MOV?dl=0)
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Looking really good. Won't be much longer now.
Russ
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WOW, how exciting! You're so far ahead of me, i'm embarrassed ;)
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Bob,
No kid's at home anymore, no grand children yet, I'm 61 and had a kidney and pancreas transplant 10 years ago. I've got a lot of things to get done, but most likely not a enough to get it all done. I have planned this project for several years and have thought everything through at least a thousand times. The Hurricane Forum and Family have been a big help too.
Everyone has a pace they feel comfortable with and only you know what that is. I love working on this project and I want to get it done while my Wife and I can enjoy it.
Your car is looking great.
Russ C.
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Russ, that is very admirable .. good luck to you and your family, and i'm praying for many, many years of you enjoying your dream car with your wife.
Bob,
No kid's at home anymore, no grand children yet, I'm 61 and had a kidney and pancreas transplant 10 years ago. I've got a lot of things to get done, but most likely not a enough to get it all done. I have planned this project for several years and have thought everything through at least a thousand times. The Hurricane Forum and Family have been a big help too.
Everyone has a pace they feel comfortable with and only you know what that is. I love working on this project and I want to get it done while my Wife and I can enjoy it.
Your car is looking great.
Russ C.
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Had to make a rear license plate bracket. The one provided with the car would not fit the decklid contour behind the ight for the plate.
Ready to start on cockpit and trunk floor covering.
Again, sorry about the up-side-down pictures in the post. They appear right-side-up if you click on them.
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Russ, wow...looks great!! A couple of questions for you. Can you post a pic of your instruments? They look different from what came with my kit. Also, I noticed you have a different hood prop. Is that your upgrade or did it come with your kit?
Thanks, Sam
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Sam,
The gauges are Speedhut billet. I had them before we purchased the car from Hurricane. The hood prop is a Locar. I was at a loss on how the supplied prop was to work and concerned about it falling and damaging the paint on the fender. This prop is telescopic and has a great finish. the bottom bracket is made from 1" square tubing.
Russ C.
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Thanks. I like them both. I also had/have concerns about the hood prop on mine for the same reasons. I think this would be a good product improvement for Hurricane to adopt in the future.Sam
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Looks really good Russ. You are getting closer and closer. Keep up the great work.
Russ R.
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I ordered a set of these Cobra headlight ring trim gaskets from Metro Moulded Rubber. The part number is HR 17. They fit well. Replaced the existing gasket with this trim gasket to address the gap between the body and trim ring. I think it gives a finished look. Top pick is with old gasket and bottom is with the Metro trim gasket.
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Passenger side is with and driver's side without.
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Very nice. Gonna pick me up a pair!
Thanks
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Thanks for posting all the photos of your great project. it's really looking fantastic. its odd I bought the same exact Lokar hood prop and have sat several nights looking at it knowing it should work but not sure what to do. I have a Gen 1 and I never got any type of hood prop. was almost afraid I"d be carrying a broom stick with me. Love the color too. Also thank you for ideas about the headlite gasket. i'm just starting the body work and i'm slow as molassas.
ken
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The park/turn signal lenses provided with HM-2018 are amber in color. I would rather they be clear, rather than amber against the grey body color. I have looked at both CSX and SF cars and see they have clear lenses. Are there any Hurricane cars with clear lenses?
If you have clear lenses, were you able to purchase only the lens without the base?
Russ C.
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The park/turn signal lenses provided with HM-2018 are amber in color. I would rather they be clear, rather than amber against the grey body color. I have looked at both CSX and SF cars and see they have clear lenses. Are there any Hurricane cars with clear lenses?
If you have clear lenses, were you able to purchase only the lens without the base?
Russ C.
https://www.csxparts.com/p-810-light-lucas-539c-front-parkturn-clear-light-289.aspx
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Bob,
Thanks for the link. I will be putting those on my wish list.
How's the car coming along?
Russ C.
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HM-2018 is ready to go through registration process.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/f9bqnnjcho8hbx9/AACs1OGA12jQUizXqqBT044sa?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/f9bqnnjcho8hbx9/AACs1OGA12jQUizXqqBT044sa?dl=0)
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HM-2018 is ready to go through registration process.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/f9bqnnjcho8hbx9/AACs1OGA12jQUizXqqBT044sa?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/f9bqnnjcho8hbx9/AACs1OGA12jQUizXqqBT044sa?dl=0)
Beautiful!
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Really nice car.
Hope the registration process is easier than it was for me.
Russ Ritttimann
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Russ,
I am hoping the Nebraska Legislature is successful in passing a new Legislative Bill LB909 to remove the need to send proof of ownership to the State so they can issue a seperate Nebraska assigned VIN for the car. The new bill also strikes the "kit" car description and replaces it with "replica" and the year it represents. The car will then be tiled as a 1965 replica and be taxed as a 1965.
The Legislative session ends on April 15th and I hope our dear friend Senetor Earnie Chambers from North Omaha doesn't try his usual filibuster to stop progress.
Russ C.
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Hope that all works out.
TexasDMV changed the laws from the time I bought my car from Hurricane until I registered it. It is registered as a 2017 Assembled Vehicle Replica of a 1965 Shelby Cobra 427 S/C built from a Hurricane Motorsports 1965 Roadster 427 S/C. My insurance say 1965 Hurricane 427. I have to meet 1965 safety regs but am exempt from emissions regs. I had to pay sales taxes on the base price of the kit when I registered it. Total was about $1450 with all the taxes and fees. We only pay yearly registration fees which is about $80.
BTW, wife and I drove mine to go see my mother for her 91st birthday yesterday. About 150 miles round trip. Took the windey long way to get there through our hill country. Really nice trip.
Russ
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BTW, wife and I drove mine to go see my mother for her 91st birthday yesterday. About 150 miles round trip. Took the windey long way to get there through our hill country. Really nice trip.
Russ
Love it!!
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Russ,
I wanted to drive the cobra down to Missouri to take my Mother for a ride. Unfortunatly she passed just before Christmas at '82'. She would have enjoyed that windey road.
Two years ago, at '80', my Mother was upset at the local Chevy dealer, because they wouldn't point out to her where the oil drain plug was on her new pickup truck. She traded that truck off for a Ford with stipulation that they show her where the drain plug is located. She got a lot of satisfaction out of changing her own engine oil. :)
Russ C.
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Worked on installig door check stops today. I have been using a piece of split rubber fuel line tubing placed over the door opening edge to keep the door hinge from contacting the finished body and chipping the paint.
I know this solution isn't authentic to the original cas, but fuel EFI, HEI and heated seats aren't either.
I purchased 2" wide flat webbing material from Strapworks.com for $0.69/ft. This webbing comes in about every imaginable color.
I heated my rat-tale file to melt the holes for the bolts and to "coterize" the cut ends of the webbing to prevent it from fraying.
Here are some pics I took during the install.
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More pics of the door check stop install. I ordered 10', but only used 2' of the webbing. Here is what I have left. If anyone wants it I will put it back in the padded envelope and send it to you.
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Nice work on the door check straps.
I enjoyed your story about your mother and the Chevy dealership and buying a Ford.
My grandmother lived to be 100 and died in 1997. When she was 85 she was at KMart with my mother and aunt. She wanted to buy a push lawn mower to mow her grass. She lived alone until just a couple of weeks before she died. My mother and aunt said not just no but "hell no" you have great grandkids that would break a leg to mow your grass. She said "fine, take me home". When she got home, she called my uncle and got him to take her back to KMart and she bought that lawn mower. That little woman could get that thing started (pull start) and push it around and mowed her grass for a good number of years. BTW, her mother lived to be 98. My mother is 91 and lives alone. Hope I got some of those genes.
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Russ I jumped back here as not to take the other thread too far off topic. I had similar issue when we went to register I had bought the engine some 12 years prior from a judge (now deceased) bought the trans at local swap meet, the MOHP about had a stroke over it, we ended up filing a lawsuit against the DMV claiming ownership of all the items (motor, trans, etc.), after wining that they were very happy to help. Even let dad affix the state tag where we wanted. Funny thing was they gave us inspection sticker but never inspected it.