Any pics of a Hurricane with a GM 350 under the hood?
Is it a real pain in the butt to use a non Ford motor?
I know anything is possible with skills and money, but I would be a first time builder and want to keep things as straight forward as possible.
Someone here (onebadmofo?) built one of the early ones with a sbc (bbc?). Easy to do. Just tell them what kind of engine/trans you want to put in when you order the car and they'll set it up for the right mounts.
If the world were a fair place, I'd have built mine with a BBC, as they're much cheaper than FE or 385 Fords. And I'm familiar with the GM engines. BUT... if you ever intend to sell it, be prepared to take a loss equivelent to giving the engine away. 99.9% (A conveniend made-up figure) of folks shopping for a Cobra want to see a Ford under the hood. A 289 Ford powered Cobra will sell for more than a 454/510 Chev. powered one. And if it's a FE, the stock goes up.
Tom is absolutely right. I too would have prefered a SBC. I've build over 25 of them over the years and know them inside out. They are actually cheaper to build and have more potential for the money than a SBF. Unwilling to take a financial hit if/when I ever sell my car, I went with a SBF. I still can't get used to seeing the distributor on the front of the motor though. ;D
Jim
I have built many BBC and SBC over the years and I am very familiar with them , but I picked a BBF for my Cobra because I personally think it's the type of car that was born a ford and needs to stay that way.By the way 385 (429-460) series parts for performance are plentifull and not at all expensive. Stroker kits are cheap and the block requires no clearancing like the BBC. Over 500 cubes are easy. Stock heads with mild porting breath well and can be improved even more with big valves.By the way , I really like the distributor in front , makes it easy to time. Randy:)
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Wasn't one of the original AC cars (before Shelby) built with a Buick 215 engine?
Don't know but, Shelby approached Chevy with his idea long before he went to Ford with it.
Well I just tried some research on what I have heard about the buick engine. It appears that it may have been done, but not in mass quantities. Oh well, back to reading for a while...
Either way, I want a 351 in mine when it does happen. 8-)
Doug, Your right, to be practical and save some initial money the Chevy is OK.
But from the stand point of tridition, value and correctness, and of course resale,.....go with a big block FE. Some might say "it's a religous thing"...A Ford Cobra with a Chevy motor in it? :-/
I'm just joking, but these are the things to consider when making an engine choice.
Best of luck, Bill Bess ;D
BOWTIE ?????????????
If you had a REAL Shelby no.......but a kit car????...remember the only SBF Shebly put in was a 289 not a 351 or stroked up to 427 OR a alm block 482 BBF......sooooooooo
I think thay all are cool......and so does everybody else when you stop to get gas.
Sid
well maybe i should be stoned I'm running a 4.6 cobra motor with FI and if I have the clearance an old style air cleaner on a carb style throtle body
with the dohc hemi style heads people will definitly be scratching their heads
at least it is a ford and all aluminum at that
Keep in mind, the only reason Shelby used Ford powerplants in the original cars was due to the fact that GM turned him down when he approached them about forming a racing team. Ford was stop #2 on his list. If Ford had turned him down, we'd all probably be loading small block hemi engines into our cars today. ;D
I think they all are COOL with what ever is under the hood........ driving down the Inter-state at around 85 mph there is not another feeling like it (now 120mph is also pretty SMOOTH but i am not admitting to anything ;))
RUN WHAT YA BRUNG AND HOPE IT IS ENOUGH ;)
Sid
Hey 1badmofo, is that you car pictured at the strip? If so, what size tires are you running?
Dan,
Yes that is me at the strip... the front tires are 245-60R-15 and the rears are 295-50R-15.
Sid
Sid,
What size are your rims? Backspacing? It's hard to get a good view from the drag strip pic, but they seem to have a nice deep dish look.
I'm really torn between old school 15" rims vs modern 17" or 18". As you know, period correctness is not a priority for me, so it's just a question of preference ;)
Thanks again,
Doug
Doug,
Front 15x8
that is exactly what i bought in 17s
17 because you have more choices in rubber than with 15s
and 17 in tires are generaly a more perfrmance tire
i went for performance over priod correctness. 8-)
Hi Sid,
Was hoping by now you would have some good news on a sale..still running the car? I'm so close to ordering right now, sent a list to Mike this week and asked for a quotation so its serious. Looks like I will be joining the SBC crew as there isn't any one here I would trust to work with me or work on a Ford and I'm up to snuff on Motors. A SBC can be fiddled with a bunch of places here. So...I was Looking at a MAS Racing Performance crate motor with 390 hp. Ever heard of one of these being used? Price seems good.
I agree whole heartedly with what has been said regarding resale value from reading a lot of post on CC over the past year or so. If you are in for the long term and not looking for a re-sale in the next several years, go for it. I'm into it for a long time, my one and only chance and over here, if doesn't say Ford or Chevy in big letters on the Valve Covers, no one would know what it was. We have even considered a Lexus V-8 which is a light weight motor with a heap of potential but Hurricane isn't set up to provide the correct mounts at this time (no one has ever built one) For a bit of a difference, Mike and crew are prepared to put together a Right hand Drive street roadster kit for me...we drive on the wrong side of the road here so it will be unique for sure.
If you get a donor SBC motor that isn't built up but is reliable, you can alway save your money and down the road, put in a Ford, though it would be a bit of work.
Ken Clarke aka fastraxsg@cc
Ken,
It is good to hear from you, and it is also good to hear that you are close ordering a car you will love it, i found it easy to put together and what little problems i had were quickly solved.
I have not heard of MAS engine I am sure you have checked them out. If you lived closer i could have helped you with one (SBC or BBC).
Yes i still have my car it is covered up waiting for warmer weather.
Keep in touch,
Sid
Sid,
Guess you better get it out and enjoy it then assuming spring comes to the Mid-West this year. The family still racing?
I've been looking at the Hurricane wheels as I don't want to get something that won't fit. What brand of tires are you running, I might have to have them sent with the kit as I am having trouble finding tires that big. I could only find Kumho KL-11's so far in the 255/60/15 and 295/50/15.
Didn't you build your own motor? I figured I would buy complete, motor and trans and save trying to get parts from long distance. I've got a nice Lexus V-8 lined up but looks like a heap of trouble with the wiring mating to a Hurricane wiring system.
Doug,
there is a guy in the UK Cobra club that has a Hemi in his fire engine red Cobra, needless to say it looks awesome and there aren't a whole lot of folks that bad mouth him. If you go with the SBC, we can swap stories about how they fit in our cars and what comments we get. Plus we can badger Sid for help.... :)
Ken,
I think it is around 15degrees F with a 30 MPH wind MAN IS IT COLD. I have BF Goodrich TA on mine, if were you I would try to get all i could in the crate from Hurricane to save shipping cost.
Is MAS here in the US?
What trans will your be going with?
I have a 350 TH in mine and love it, I did find somthing out i ordered my kit with a 3.50 gear and found with a 3 speed and short tire that it was to much gear so i changed to a 3.00 gear and I LOVE IT 60 MPH is now 2400 rpms compared to 3000 rpms and man did it ever open up the top end. I took the car to the drag strip and it only hurt it 2 tenths in the 1/4 mile in a street car you can't feel that.
Yes i build all my motors, if there is a problem i don't to go far to get my hands around the guy neck ;D.
Yes, we racing this yr my daughter will be racing her HEMI powered Jeep in the street class and i will be racing my 70 Camaro (496 ci) in Super Spro.
Here is a picture of my Camaro
Sid
:o As we say in mountain biking, Sid, that's some SICK AIR!
Doug 8-)
Thanks
Plenty cold, now you know why I left Lambertville, Michigan and moved to the tropics...Even when it rains all day, its still 80+.
Glad to hear your daughter is still racing, bit faster than her Jr. I would imagine. Still got the rail?
Did some more shopping and looking around for tires today, only ones I can find are Toyo 600F6 for the front (255/60/15) and Toyo Proxes S/T's for the rear (295/50/15). Also can get Kumho's in the same sizes but they are KL-11's which I think is a light pickup tire. Of course, they don't have them in the shop and no photos so time to do some internet checking. There are some limitations on importing tires to protect local manufacturing so would rather buy here and save trouble.
I was interested in a TH 350, partly since I already have a new Lokar shifter for one but am not real knowlegable on the merits of that over a TH400. I need a simple one, every thing simple given the quality of labor here on import hot rod stuff. Rice rockets no problem. We were going to put a Supra twin turbo in my old roadster but the car was about 5 inches too narrow where the frame rails are... so still looking. >:( To narrow for any V-8 or V-6. :'( More like a Flintstone flyer.
MAS racing engines are in Wisconsin, they have a website at www.masperformance.com Either of the two lower end motors (with carbs) would be in my price range. I also asked them to quote me a price complete with transmission attached and ready to run. I would prefer the 390 horse with the Vortec Heads as I only get one shot to order. The others are a bit past my abilities, even this one might be. Not much fun wrecking it the first time out after waiting so long to get one. I'm sure there are a million other builders around the nation. Tried a Chevy dealer about 8 miles from Hurricane and they decided they didn't want to do business with me when I said I was exporting to Indonesia, must be afraid of money laundaring. Will see what MAS gets back to me this week.
Ken
Ken,
The motor looks like a good value for the $$$$$$ carb to pan.
Ya, i sold my dragsters i only have the camaro now..Keep me posted
Sid
do what you want thats your choice and my blessings are toward ya
but no bow ties at my party lol, hey way cheaper and we will all arirve togeather and have fun. only in america isnt that what chevrolet and apple pie is all about oh and ford way to go henry darn cars are every where.
eric :-/ these faces are too much makes me feel like a kid again.